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hello good morning so today is the second
day of this course so in the last class

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if you remember we talked about the symmetry
aspects of different objects and different

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molecules i showed you quite a number of structures
of different objects as well as certain molecules

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and we discussed about the symmetry aspects
of those and we we say that ok some molecules

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are most symmetric than others and ultimately
we also showed that there is a something called

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symmetry element and symmetry operation which
is like symmetry operation is the we know

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a movement of a body by which you you know
end up having an indistinguishable structures

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and today what we are going to do we want
to find out about the symmetry elements

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and symmetry operations in bit more detail
ok

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so what are the symmetry elements and symmetry
operations that a molecule can have ok so

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one can have five different symmetry elements
and we can generate several symmetry operations

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out of those elements ok will look at that
in create a detail so lets look at one by

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one so as you can see on the screen that
you can have an element called identity

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another element called proper axis of rotation
and you can have mirror planes you can

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have center of symmetry and you can have improper
axis of rotation so now lets look at one by

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one what is what first lets look at identity
you know the element of identity so what is

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it so before going going to the details
of this identity operation and all these things

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let us also see what this identity of operation
is denoted as identity operation this is denoted

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as e ok

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now what is this identity operation before
going into the molecular structure i will

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give you very simple you know representation
of this identity operation a suppose the

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person is you know looking at a particular
direction then he can take several turns so

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one can take a complete right turn that is
by ninety degree so if i take a right turn

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i will be looking at this direction and then
if i take another right turn then i will look

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at the back that is towards the board and
then two more right turns i will come here

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so there is a very nice story about
you know army so in army what we have is

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a commander will tell you to take a particular
position they call it take a phase so what

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commander will take right face left face so
you move by you know rotate by in ninety degree

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either on the right side or left side so there
is another turn that is by hundred and eighty

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degree you actually taken an above turn this
is called an above turn now the commander

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says take an above turn and then he takes
one more above turn now some time in the drill

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the veterans the aged person who has retired
from army they come and take part in the

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drill so one of the veteran he was taken part
in the drill and then when he heard the

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above turn command he starts turning around
by one eighty degree while taking this turn

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he realizes that he is old enough and is very
difficult for him to take turn a proper way

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he twisting is like and all these things

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and he knew that the in a commander will ask
him to turn around again so he as to took

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take two above turns so he realizes that
while ultimately i will be looking at the

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commander at the end after taking two above
turns so if i do nothing then also i am having

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the same position so this idea of do nothing
is actually an identity operation so if you

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look at this picture here the person is looking
at us and then he takes keeps on taking

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turns from here to here to here and then
here to here and then here to here and then

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here so ultimately there is no change in the
position of the person so now if i do not

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go through all these intermediate states and
if i come from this state to this state directly

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the symmetry operation that we have performed
is an identity operation ok so essentially

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you can figure out identity operation means
you do nothing you keep an object as such

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in his position you get obviously the identical
structure because you are not done anything

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so this identity operation is also called
do nothing operation ok and this is the easiest

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thing and no matter what any objects in this
universe will have at least one symmetry element

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in it and that is this identity element ok
so anyone can do an identity operation on

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any object and get an identical structure
here is identical not only indistinguishable

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ok so that is about identical operation e

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next we talk about rotational symmetry
elements ok this is also called proper axis

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of rotation why this called proper we will
talk about this you know in during this

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course but less for the being just call
it as an proper axis of rotation so in the

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last class i showed you an example of rotating
at equilateral triangle by hundred and twenty

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degree and getting back in distinguishable
structures so that particular you know axis

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is called axis of proper rotation ok and
this axis of proper rotation this symmetry

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element is designated by the this c n c subscript
n now in that particular example that i give

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you in the last class we had an hundred and
twenty degree rotation about that particular

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axis which is perpendicular to that triangle
so what is this n ok so you can see that for

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c n n is equals to two we have an hundred
and eighty degree rotation if i have an hundred

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and twenty degree rotation and we can get
an in distinguishable object then the you

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know order of this rotation this n here that
is written in this c n is called order

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of rotation ok so for an hundred and twenty
degree rotation you have an order because

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to three similarly for an ninety degree rotation
you can have an order four so you can easily

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figure out that if you have say an object
like a square a perfect square

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you can imagine an axis through this point
and this axis is perpendicular this plane

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of the board then for every ninety degree
rotation you get an indistinguishable structure

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because this if i mark one two three four
now we can easily do because you have already

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seen it for the triangular case you have another
square because square is not going to be changes

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to a triangle right square will remain a square

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so when you give a ninety degree rotation
so one will come here two will go here three

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will go here and four will go here so ultimately
what you have is this one two three four until

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and unless you have this numbers you have
an indistinguishable structure that is a square

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and this is done by a rotation by ninety degree
ok so this axis this c n here is known as

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c four and four comes from from this relation
where your n is equals to is equal to three

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hundred and sixty degree by the angle of rotation
angle of rotation right so three hundred here

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it is this rotation is bout ninety degree
so the angle will be three sixty degree by

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ninety degree is equal to four so i have an
axis c four so you know in that way if i have

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a rotation of sixty degree thirty degree i
can find out what is the order of rotation

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and the name of the particular rotational
symmetry that is c ten c eight c six whatever

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ok for a sixty degree rotation for example
it will be c six because three sixty degree

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by sixty degree right so it will be six c
six

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now you can see that you are i can vary the
you know value of n i can go from say like

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c three four five six so i have not written
there c one why not because c one will mean

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what c one will mean from this particular
relation it will mean that n for c one n equals

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to one so nj equals to one means i must have
a situation why this angle of rotation this

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equals to three hundred and sixty degrees
this is exactly the case what we described

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just sometimes back when you are discussing
about the identity operation right so that's

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why c one is not mentioned anywhere because
c one and e are the same ok so we have seen

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that ok n can be like two three four five
six seven eight depending on the structure

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of the object or structure of the molecule
in particular so like for benzene i have so

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c six right so benzene structure is like this
so this position of the carbon atoms and associated

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hydrazine's
and if assume equal distribution of the

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then i can have an equivalent or indistinguishable
structure for every six degree rotation about

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the axis which passes through this one right
so every sixty degree i can have the indistinguishable

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structure and we can have for this one and
axis c six and this particular is axis is

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c six right

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now in that way i can go increasing increasing
so can i have something which is c infinity

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that's a question right so from this expression
it looks like yes i can have what is the

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what what is the solution that means here
i have to have n equals to infinity right

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so if i equate this one to be infinity what
do i have here i have extremely large number

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right almost like an infinity so in that case
what i have i have a situation like an object

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or a molecule which as an axis about which
i can give any turn by any amount of angle

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and i can get an indistinguishable structure
you need an example right so here is one example

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for you carbon dioxide now look at the axis
if i have an axis passing through all these

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atoms right this is the linear molecule carbon
dioxide is a linear molecule and if have an

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axis passing through this linear molecule
you know through all the atoms then you see

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about this axis all around this is highly
symmetric right so doesn't matter whatever

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be the you know angle by which i rotate it
gives an indistinguishable structure so in

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a sense i can give an infinite you know
amount of rotation before it comes back to

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its original you know configuration got
it so because i can give this infinite degrees

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of rotation about this axis and get indistinguishable
structure this axis is known as c infinity

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ok

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now we say that this operation is called
rotation and you know really you should

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say its a proper rotation why it is proper
because if i really can have axis that will

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change this you know molecular configuration
from one to another indistinguishable one

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ok so there can be really an axis there so
there mean that means there will be something

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which is not like this that is not a proper
rather improper ok we will come to that it

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is there and we will come to that now lets
see some more example of this rotation

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so as i said that we can have c two c three
c four and so on so here is an example which

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shows you the two fold rotation ok and the
axis about which this two fold rotation is

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you know taken place is called two fold axis
of rotation so here we have a molecule h two

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o ok so to you know of i have an axis which
bisects the angle h o h then we can rotate

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the molecule about that axis right it is given
here ok so this is that axis about which you

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can turn them so you see we get an indistinguishable
structure by a rotation of hundred and twenty

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degree and another rotation by the hundred
and twenty degree will end of having the same

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structure back ok so this is an example of
c two ok

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now lets come to three fold axis of rotation
which we have already looked at in terms of

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ammonia this is another example which is
boron trifluoride so here you can see that

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one fluorine is mutt by a different colour
then other fluorine so that you can actually

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distinguish them ok so now by hundred and
twenty degree rotation you get an indistinguishable

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structure but you know you can actually distinguish
till because you have colored one of them

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separately but in a you know its chemistry
is not going to change because b f three is

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still b f three there ok so you can give
more rotation and you can change the positions

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of the fluorine atoms but they remain indistinguishable
though because of the colour you can distinguish

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them here at least on the pen and paper now
we have been talking about only one particular

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axis will about which i can have a proper
axis of rotation now its not necessary

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that in a particular molecule we have only
one type of axis of rotation ok so here is

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one example while we talk about trigonal
planar molecule ok so say this is boron trifluoride

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ok so all the you know atoms are in the same
plane so its a trigonal planar now in the

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in the last page we have seen that there
is an c three axis right about which you can

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have one twenty degree rotation and
you can get the identical structure but is

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that all no here you see that i can imagine
and axis which right here which passes through

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one fluorine and one boron that you know
particular axis you can have an hundred

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and twenty degree rotation about that particular
axis so you can get an indistinguishable structure

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so you have three boron fluoride bond right
so this0 is one and this is two and this is

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three so you can have the same type of axis
same type of c two axis through each of this

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boron fluoride bonds so you can essentially
have three c two axis for this molecule and

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you can have one c three axis ok

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now will also see that this c three is an
element now when you operate this c three

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consecutively you can get indistinguishable
structures so you can have c three followed

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by another c three and then another three
and you can keep going unless you get an identical

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structure so so if you you know do two
successive c threes then you have something

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called c three square we will talk about this
things much later and similarly you add one

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more c three into this and you can have c
three three which again is nothing but the

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identity operation right we have already discus
that so in this particular case what we

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learnt is that a molecule may have more then
you know one type of proper axis of rotation

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and here particularly we see that if the molecule
as c three as well as c two and its also you

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know not necessary that this c three and c
two that is two different you know axis

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of symmetry they will be coinciding ok
so they can have they can be that you know

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different plane and different directions ok
or you can have the you know two different

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axis in the same you know coinciding together
ok

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so before going to the next one let me also
clarify the last point that i made that is

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in the case of b f three we saw that c
three and c two they are not coinciding but

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inside an molecules you can have you know
more than one more than one proper axis

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of symmetry coinciding together ok so for
example you can have lets take this particular

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molecule benzine here ok so you have seen
that there is an axis about which we can give

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a sixty degree rotation and you can have
a c six axis now for every c six turn this

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hydrogen goes here this hydrogen goes here
so you gave a give a sixty degree movement

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here now if if you want you can have an axis
here and you can rotate in such a way this

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h comes here that is i can have an hundred
and eighty degree rotation right so this hundred

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and eighty degree rotation about this axis
without going through this so directly you

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rotate and bring it here do not stop here
so this is a c two axis right so c two and

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c six they are about the same axis ok so which
is different from b three but again here this

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is not all we can have many other rotational
axis for example what we can see here that

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is about this you have c six axis you have
c two axis ok and you can come from here to

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here directly and then from here to here and
here to here by hundred and twenty degree

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rotation so there by you have c three
axis so all this c six c two c three they

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you know coincide on each other ok they are
about the same physical axis if you can imagine

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one here

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but there are other axis like if you connect
this hydrogen to this hydrogen you find a

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symmetry axis here about which if you give
a rotation of hundred and eighty degrees we

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will find an i will you know identical structure
because this will come here and this will

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go here so it is just a flipping so similarly
this will do the same job this will also do

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the same job ok and if i can imagine an axis
like this this will also do the same job ok

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so i can have six different c two axis which
are lying on the plane of the molecule not

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coinciding with this six c six or c three
or c two and this c two is different than

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the c two that i just showed you ok now lets
move on to the next symmetry element which

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is known as a plane of symmetry ok so what
is this plane of symmetry operation ok

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so you imagine any object or any space
if you take this x y z coordinate and you

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you know reflect it about a plane and if you
get an identical structure that is having

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coordinate minus x minus y minus z ok then
you get equivalent and you get rather

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indistinguishable structure by this reflection
so you are doing a reflection about a plane

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and you are getting indistinguishable structure
and this plane is a is asymmetric plane ok

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and this symmetry operation is called plane
of symmetry ok or also sometime called

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reflection operation ok

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now this reflection operation is or the
mirror planes they are denoted by a symbol

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sigma ok so all the plane of symmetry are
denoted by the symbol sigma now there can

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be a different type of sigmas so you can see
that we have something special called sigma

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h sigma subscript h so sigma h is a mirror
plane which is perpendicular to the principle

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axis of rotation ok now you also have something
called sigma v sigma v is also mirror plane

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but this particular mirror plane as a
as a particular characteristics which says

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that this particular mirror plane will contain
principle axis of rotation there is another

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type of mirror plane which is known as sigma
d so sigma d is mirror plane that bisects

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the dihedral angle made by the principle axis
of rotation and two adjacent c two axis

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here one notice this two is actually a
subscript ok so this mirror plane bisects

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a dihedral angle made by the principle axis
of a rotation and two adjacent c two axis

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which are perpendicular to the principle rotation
axis

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so you can see that whatever be the name sigma
v sigma d or sigma h their functions are same

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ok so this subscripts v d and h just are used
to sefer separate different you know

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planes of symmetries but their jobs are same
ok so in the following class we will

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talk about more about this mirror
planes and we will sight some examples and

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go to the other kind of symmetry elements
and symmetry operations ok so see you again

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in the next class

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thank you very much
