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hello welcome back so where we were looking
at the selection rules of fundamental transitions

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right so we will start from there today again
so

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for fundamental transition so we explained
in the last class what is a fundamental

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transition will again recap that so if
i have a n number of normal modes for a

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given particular molecule and the out of
you know initially the ground state means

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that all of the normal modes will be staying
at vibrational level zero ok so which is return

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as say the product of all the wave functions
ok now if i say this is my quantum number

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vibrational quantum number then if n equals
to zero then if all of them all of wave functions

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are at zero vibrational level then this is
my molecular ground state and if one of the

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normal modes you know is excited to the you
know level one then i have a situation

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where i have suppose this is the jth normal
mode so kth normal mode is was stain or residing

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at vibrational level one and rest of the
normal modes which is i that number will

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be now i minus one we still stay in the
level zero so this transition is a fundamental

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transition ok
so so we we we want to study fundamental transition

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because that is the most intense one compared
to any other possible transition that we mentioned

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like an overtone or combination banks combination
transition now we we got ultimately

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the rules in terms of the transition moment
integral so when we were looking at the infrared

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spectroscopy transition we got you know the
transition moment integral as one as integration

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psi v j we use this particular terminology
ok instead of using this terminology we use

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this one ok v is vibration ok and j is the
particular normal mode jth normal mode which

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is being excited and you have either x
or y or z so this was one and second was a

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singular integral with y as operator and
third one was integration for z and we say

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that since this one this psi v sorry this
psi v i is my ground state and we already

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said in the last class that the you know
ground state of you know any in normal

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mode in the ground state will always form
the basis for totally symmetry irreducible

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representations so this one i dont have to
care about so i have to only care about this

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part ok so the normal mode that is being excited
at the operator ok so if i know the you know

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irreducible representation for which this
x forms the basis of then all i need to know

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what is the irreducible representation for
which this normal mode that is being excited

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from the bases off and as per the rule of
transition moment integral whether that will

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be you know zero or non zero will depend
on whether this overall integral is you

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know forms the basis of totally is symmetric
irreducible representation or contain the

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total symmetric irreducible representations
so when we represent this particular product

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by a direct product of the respective irreducible
representations so that will mean that i need

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to know the particular irreducible representations
of this normal mode ok so the moment this

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and this belong to the same irreducible representations
i have a nonzero value for this integral so

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this three all together will give me that
selection rule for a fundamental transition

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in infrared spectroscopy so a normal mode
will be inferred active if this belongs to

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the irreducible representations for which
either one or more of the cartesian coordinates

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that is x y z said ok from the bases of
so this is for ir activity ok so the particular

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normal modes which we lead two nonzero value
we will say they are ir active normal modes

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ok on the other side for raman spectroscopy
we got an integral which is psi v j p per

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p is that polarizability things are component
right so just like here we can look at the

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you know symmetry properties of the polarization
[comp/component] polarizability component

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which are like this binary products x y
or x z or y z or the square like x square

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or y square z square or any of the combinations
like you know x square minus y square and

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so on so this kind of functions we form
the polarizability tensor they they represent

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the polarizeability tensor component
so i need to know the symmetry of those

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x y or y z x square or y square so on and
the normal mode that is being excited ok that

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should from the basis of the same irreducible
representation for which the particular polarizability

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component from the basis of so suppose i have
a component x y suppose which forms the basis

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for say au then my selection rules says that
this transition will be allowed only when

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psi v j also from the basis for au right because
the direct product of au two au s will give

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me the totally symmetric irreducible representation
and then my integral will be will survived

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so here what is the selection rule for raman
spectroscopy sectional for fundamental

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transition that will be raman active that
is that a particular normal mode of vibration

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will be raman active when the normal mode
belongs to the same irreducible representation

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to which this binary combinations that
is xy xz etcetera which form the basis form

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alright
so after getting this thing we are in a position

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to talk about the you know that which
particular modes which particular normal

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modes that we deduced say for co three two
minus or n two f two so which one of

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them will be ir active which one of them will
be infrared active right so say for co three

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two minus we got the you know normal modes
which are genuine with represent genuine vibration

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they were a one prime a two prime i think
a two prime a two double prime and two

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e primes now if you consult the cut the
character table you will see that among these

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this a one prime that you know that
has this cartesian coordinate component ok

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as its basis ok so this one will be infrared
active while this one has this binary function

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as its basis so this one will be raman active
right and this e prime it has both the no

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only cartesian coordinate component coordinate
at basis as well as the combination of cartesian

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in binary combination of this curtesian coordinate
so this will be ir active as well as raman

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active alright ok so we also had this
n two f two molecule for which we had this

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vibrational modes like three ag plus au plus
two bu right now if i look at the character

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table of c two eight
so what i see that ag has a this only the

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binary functions like x square or y square
z square xy ok so this binary functions

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tells me that ag will be a raman active mode
while this au it has z as its basis and bu

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has x or y as its basis so x y and z get that
transformed as either au or bu so this au

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and bu you know the most which transform
as au and bu will be infrared active correct

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so
so this two will be infrared active infrared

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active normal mode why this three ag will
constitute raman active normal mode now one

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thing you notice here in this particular molecule
co three two minus i have one more which is

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ir active but raman inactive another mode
i have raman active but ir inactive and we

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have certain modes which are both ir active
as well as raman active ok so when you look

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at n two f two i see that none of the modes
are raman as well as ir active so those modes

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which are ir active are not raman active and
vice versa so there is a difference between

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this two we will talk about this one will
take another example another particular

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molecule for example like ammonia and look
at the practical example and see what happens

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there ok then we will come to some you know
conclusion about you know this are the reason

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behind this kind of observation ok
so now after we we could separate out the

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raman active our infrared active modes using
this symmetry now we will go back to the

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original problem of this n two f two molecule
and its normal modes ok so we got this you

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know this six normal modes and there is symmetry
it now we do not have any idea what are this

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normal mode so how do they look like ok
so how do we do that so here at this point

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we will take help from so called internal
coordinates ok so what are internal coordinates

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we mentioned it earlier let me tell you again
so this internal coordinate will be either

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the bond distance or a bond angle ok
so in case of n two f two i have ok this is

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the structure so how many bond distances i
can take i can have n f to n f bond distance

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and one n f bond distance ok so i have two
n f i have one n n then i have this angle

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as well as this angle so i have both of them
are same so i have n n f angle right

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so i you know there is no hard and fast rule
that ok which one i will use as my coordinate

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and which one i will use first which one will
i was later so it depends on what you want

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to do now since we are dealing with the vibration
which means either the bond distance will

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alter or the bond angle you know temperature
doing altar in plain or out of plain ok

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so lets start with this now before even starting
starting with this internal coordinate what

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we will do we will have a look at the character
table once again so if i look at the character

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table here for sit wait what we have so
if we look at the we have three different

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types of irreducible representation i know
according to which the normal modes get transformed

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so out of this three ag au and bu i have this
au particularly this one this has a character

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of minus one for so sigma h equals to minus
one ok why for ag and bu the character for

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sigma h is plus one so what does that mean
that in this au mode the you know bond displacements

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or when a bond angle change such that the
structure is you know not symmetric with respect

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to the sigma is plane so whether it is antisymmetric
so what does that mean that there is some

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you know part of the structures you know
you know about the plane or below the plane

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ok so that means the particular normal mode
which transforms according to au has some

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motion which goes out of this plane now we
started with a planar molecule right and now

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i have a situation where i see that sigma
eight produces you know i minus one as the

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character that means that this bonds when
one of this one is upward one is downward

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meaning that this motion of this you know
a bonds they are not in plane rather they

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are out of plane so they are doing some kind
of out of plane motion right so i can safely

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to start with i can describe this one as out
of plane bend why bending because this bond

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stretching if it goes on in the same direction
it will still remain planner but in this particular

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case of au type of irreducible representations
i can clearly see that will be out of the

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plane so therefore the angle say if i say
this you know this angle here which was in

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the plane so after this you know movement
of this f out of the plane that is a creation

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of an angle here ok
so without worrying about anything i can see

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that this is a bending motion ok because from
planarity i have au i say this is out of plane

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bending so it is like you know this one is
plus and this one is minus ok so in that way

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or it can be in this direction
now we are left with five other so ag three

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ag and two bu and if we use this as my internal
coordinate then i find because i am using

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five internal coordinates and i am going to
find out about the properties of the normal

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modes of five five six normal mode belonging
to three ag and two bu ir well so lets do

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that now here we use this to enough bonds
together right and the so lets look at the

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representation so i have this and then
i can have three different presentation based

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on n f n n our lets say n n f which is an
angle and then we have the representation

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based on n double bond n distance alright
so he will not do anything so where two basis

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set its basis functions will give me a character
of two so if i do c two hear this e f together

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they are getting you know interchange so i
get nothing here same is true for i and sigma

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x i get two now if i look at the angle it
has the same fact took it is that the two

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angles that i am getting so now when i have
this n n bond distance then identity of course

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it gives one and c two and i sigma eight all
of them will contribute one to the diagonal

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so i get this is ready presentation so this
one i dont have to do anything i immediately

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see this is all symmetric with respect to
all the symmetric operations there for the

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representation that i am having this belongs
to totally symmetric irreducible representations

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so this was was very easy alright now i have
to reduce this two ok and what about i you

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know that is a like get for gamma n f will
be same as gamma n n f correct because there

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you know sorry this one is two they are identical
and if you reduce this one then what you will

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see that this one is equal to ag plus bu and
obviously this one will also be ag plus bu

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alright ok
so i got back my original result that we got

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earlier using that three in cartesian coordinate
system that's good that says that i have chosen

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the right you know internal coordinates know
why did i do all these things i have already

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got this one so what was the need for getting
this one this is because i need to have some

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idea about that particular motion of the normal
modes right so now i get this ag and bu based

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on this nf bond that means the normal mode
you know which transforms as ag and bu they

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we have some motion of this bond distance
ok nf bond distance now if you look at

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the characters of ag and bu let's have a look
at the respective characters

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so ag is totally symmetric correct so then
i can safely say that ag is my symmetric stretching

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mode why because it is concerned with the
nf bond distance so nf bond will increase

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in both the direction in equal manner if it
has to contract both of them will contact

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the same manner and then only it will belong
to ag representation ok so this particular

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mode is obviously the symmetric stretching
mode so this is symmetry stretching and if

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of course belongs to ag alright while if i
look at the beauty presentation then i see

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that with respect to
i always expect to see to you know this is

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a symmetric so what does that mean here since
this is best on nf bond distance again it

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has to do something with the change in the
bond distance and it says that if i operate

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you know c two c two what it will do it will
take this guy over here and this guy will

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here so this nf bonds they will get interchange
and that will give me minus one as my you

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know character for the overall molecules
factor that means that change in the bond

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distance due to the normal mode of vibration
which transforms as this bu will change to

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nf bonds in different ways meaning it will
be something like this

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so one will you know increase while other
one will decrease so it is like i have you

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know say n two so like this ok so this
is my n n bond and this is f two my this bond

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is increasing while this is shrinking and
then when this one is shrinking and this one

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is increasing so this is asymmetric stretching
so this bu gives me and asymmetry stretching

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which is soon shown here alright
so that was obtained from the representation

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that we got using nth bond distance now if
i look at the representation that i got out

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of n n f alright so n n f is an angle so whatever
the normal modes that i i am talking about

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has to do something with the change of this
angles ok so ag is a total symmetric ir so

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normal mode which transforms according to
this ag must change this bond angles in a

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free symmetric way that means if this bond
goes here making this angle shorter and this

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will also go in this direction making this
one you know similarly shorter so this will

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be a symmetry bending mode so if i can write
here in what it will happen so ok

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so both of them will move in opposite direction
by equal amount so that this angle is changed

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by the same amount ok so this is the symmetric
bending ok so this is symmetric bending and

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it corresponds to bu i am sorry this will
be corresponding to ag i am talking about

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this particular ag ok now what will bu the
bu will also be a bending mode because it

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deals with this angle and in this case if
i look at the character table of the bu

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like before it has a it is a symmetry with
respect to see two or i so there it should

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be a asymmetric kind of movement right so
therefore it will be a symmetric bending so

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if i have f here f here then if this angle
becomes shorter then this will become larger

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so if this goes in this direction this also
goes in this direction or vice versa ok

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so this is asymmetric in bending motion and
has a symmetry of bu alright so we are left

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with this last normal mode having ag symmetry
and this was born out of this in an bond distance

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is totally symmetric so this in nn bond distance
either increasing or decreasing ok its purely

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symmetric right you can say so like you know
if you take talk about this one so they will

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go apart and they will you know come closer
so in a very symmetric way so overall that

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will be a completely symmetric with respect
to all this symmetric operations so this one

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will be there nn symmetric stretch ok so that
will be the symmetric stretch ok

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so see now if you look at all the symmetry
in all the normal modes and you know when

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you look at this presentation of this normal
mode it is absolutely [clea/clear] clear right

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so to start with we didnt have any idea like
what are those normal modes how will they

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look like because if i will give you the molecule
structure and ask you to drop down almost

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structure you may not be able to draw exactly
what is you know what we operated just now

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but if you go in this way you exactly no ok
i have use this as my so what about changes

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is happening is happening on this particular
bond or on this particular angle for this

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particular bond so looking at the symmetry
ok of that particular presentation that we

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got using those basis functions i can unequivocally
comment on this particular normal modes so

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this is how we get the you know the character
of the normal modes and knowing get symmetric

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properties all right now before we stop today
will mention one more thing suppose i take

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another molecule ok say ammonia and tick all
three and coordinates and for the representation

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so for ammonia belong into to c three point
group i have e c three and sigma v correct

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so if i form gamma three n we have twelve
for e c three v e nothing and sigma v will

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two two so you can verify yourself this one
and once you reduce it you will get you know

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the total number you know all the irreducible
representations containing this representation

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which will be three one plus a two last four
e and out of these representations what you

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will get is for normal vibration you get to
a one plus two e fine now if you if you try

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to find out which one of this you know
normal modes will be infrared active and raman

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active you will see both of this both of this
will be ir as well as raman active

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now lets compare the three compounds that
we looked at one belonging into d three eight

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symmetry another belonging to c two eight
symmetry and this third one that we just looked

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at is it c three v symmetry now d three h
had a thing like certain normal modes will

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be infrared active only certain normal modes
will be raman active only and sudden normal

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mode will be both raman as well as infrared
active in case of c three v i have all the

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normal modes are simultaneously raman active
as well as infrared active in case of that

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molecule n two f two which belongs to c two
h point group and these sent to symmetry i

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get those you know particular normal modes
which are raman active are not infrared active

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and vice versa meaning that for that particular
molecule and a particular point group the

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raman active modes and infrared active modes
are mutually exclusive ok

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so this is a special character of molecules
which are central symmetric in nature ok so

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we will stop here today and we will elaborate
this issue in the next class thank you very

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much for your attention
